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John Goodall

Preston North End FC, Derby County FC

14 appearances, 11 goals

P 14 W 11 D 1 L 2 F 59: A 13
82% successful

1887-98

disciplined: none
captaincies:
two
minutes played:
1260

Profile

Full name John Goodall
Born 19 June 1863 in Westminster, London [registered in Westminster St. Margaret, September 1863].

Census Notes

According to the 1871 census, John is the eldest of three children to Mary, born in Tarbolton, Ayrshire. His younger brother, Archibald, was born in Belfast, and his younger sister, Elizabeth, born in Edinburgh. They live at 13 Glencairn Square in Kilmarnock. His father, a Scottish Fusiliers Corporal, had died before this census.

According to John Goodall's football career, he was still in Kilmarnock in 1881. The 1881 Scottish census has not yet been made available to confirm his whereabouts.

According to the 1891 census, John is now married to Sarah, with two children, Mary Jane Richard and Alice. John is stated as being a tobacconist, and they have one servant. They live at 34 Dexter Street in Litchurch, Derby.

According to the 1901 census, John is a professional footballer, still married and with three more children, Alice, Florence and John. They live at 28 Slatelands Road in Glossop.

According to the 1911 census, John is still married and they have two more children, Margaret and Archibald.  They live at 105 Gladstone Road in Watford. They had eight children in total.  John himself is not on this census return.

Married to Sarah Rawcliffe, on 4 January 1887 at All Saints Church, Preston [registered in Preston, Lancashire, March 1887]. Married by Septimus Hutchinson.
Marriage Notes According to John's marriage certificate, he was an Iron Turner, and lived at 97 Peel Hall Street, Preston.  Sarah lived at 127 Lancaster Road in Preston. His father, Richard, had died, her father, Roger, was a butcher.  Witnessed by William & Elizabeth Dobson.
Died 20 May 1942 at Long Spring, Watford, aged 78 years 335 days [registered in Watford, Hertfordshire, June 1942], buried at Watford North Cemetery in an unmarked grave.
Height/Weight 5' 9", 11st. 12lbs [1903].

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990],  FindMyPast.com & Ian-opc.org,uk

Club Career

Club(s) Goodall started with Kilmarnock Burns FC before joining Kilmarnock Athletic FC in Scotland, and made his debut for the club at the age of seventeen in 1880.  He moved south in 1883 and joined the Bolton side Great Lever FC.  He then joined Preston North End FC in 1885.  He became one of the foundation cornerstones of the new Football League.  In its inaugral season, Goodall scored twenty goals in 21 league appearances. In May 1889, he was transferred to Derby County FC. The full cost of the deal was not disclosed but part of the inducement package included the tenancy of the public house, The Plough on London Road in Derby.  Goodall left Derby County FC in cs 1899 after 211 league appearances, where he scored 76 times. He also played for New Brighton Tower FC in 1900 (two goals in six league appearances), Glossop North End FC, also from 1900 (eight goals in 35), then as player/manager of Watford FC in 1903. He then guested for Maerdy FC against Swansea Town FC in January 1913, aged 49 years.
Club honours FA Cup runners-up 1885-86, 1886-87, 1897-98, FA Cup winner 1887-88;  Football League champions 1888-89;
Individual honours In 1896 officials of Derby County FC arranged a benefit game for Goodall. The match between County and a team of the best amateur players in the country, raised £277, an amount equivalent to almost two years’ wages for an average professional footballer at the end of the 19th century.
Represented the Football League on four occasions;
Distinctions Goodhall is credited with discovering Steve Bloomer, who formed an excellent partnership with his mentor. Bloomer later said that "Goodall took the greatest interest in me when I was a kid. He coached me, secured me for Derby County, played with me and never failed to give me valuable hints and advice.  Johnny Goodall was a wonderful footballer, brilliant captain and Nature’s gentleman, but little did I think when all the fuss was made over his arrival from Preston what an influence for good was being brought into my life. I always maintain that no player has ever known as much about football and its methods than this old friend of mine.”
Goodall also played first-class cricket for Derbyshire CCC and Hertfordshire CC, as well as representing England at bowls/curling [?] and was an excellent billiards player.  Goodall also wrote a book on the skills needed to play football.
Oldest Player to represent Watford FC. In a Southern League match, aged 44 years and 87 days, Goodall took to the field against Bradford Park Avenue on 14 September 1907.

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990].

Management Career

Club(s) When Goodall joined Watford FC in 1903, he became their first manager.  At first, his capacity was as a player-manager, becoming their full-time manager between 1907-10.
Honours Southern League winners 1903-04;

England Career

Player number One of seven who became the 140th player (145) to appear for England.
Position(s) Inside-right, centre-forward, inside-left
First match No. 32, 4 February 1888, Wales 1 England 5, a British Championship match at Recreation Ground, Nantwich Road, Crewe, aged 24 years 230 days.
Last match No. 63, 28 March 1898, Wales 0 England 3, a British Championship match at The Racecourse, Mold Road, Wrexham, aged 34 years 282 days.
Major tournaments British Championship 1887-88, 1888-89, 1890-91, 1891-92, 1892-93, 1893-94, 1894-95, 1895-96, 1897-98;
Team honours British Championship winners 1887-88, 1890-91, 1891-92, 1892-93, 1894-95, 1897-98;
Individual honours None
Distinctions John Goodall's brother, Archie, appeared for Ireland. John himself played four times against England.

England Tragedy

FORMER DERBY FOOTBALLERS'S CLAIM FOR DAMAGES
A former famous professional footballer and an ex-Chief Constable of St. Albans were the parties in an action at Watford County Court today. John Goodall, formerly player-manager of Watford FC, an English International who played with Preston North End, and for many years captain of Derby County, whose present address is Long Spring, Watford, sued John Edward Harrison, of Ramsbury Road, St. Albans, for £25 damages for personal injuries. Goodall said that on December 18 [1930] he was knocked down by Harrison's car as he was leaving a cinema, and received concussion and internal injuries. Harrison said that Goodall walked into the road with his head down right in front of the car. He put on his brakes and stopped in half the car's length, but could not avoid hitting him. Judge Crawford gave judgement for Harrison with costs, stating that Goodall could not have looked up and down the road before crossing." - Derby Daily Telegraph, Friday, 8 May 1931

Beyond England

After leaving school Goodall worked as an iron turner. Following his retirement from management with Watford FC, he became their groundsman at Cassio Road. - An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who. Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.108./spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk

 

John Goodall - Career Statistics
Squads Apps Comp.
Apps
Mins. Goals Goals Av.min Comp.
Goals
Capt. Disc.
16 14 14 1260 11 115 min 11 twice none
Due to the fact that many matches rarely stuck to exactly ninety minutes long, allowing time for injuries, errors and substitutions.  The minutes here given can only ever be a guideline and cannot therefore be accurate, only an approximation.

 

John Goodall - Match Record - All Matches - By Type of Match
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts % W/L
Home 7 6 0 1 30 6 +24 0 3 4.286 0.857 85.7 +5
Away 7 5 1 1 29 7 +22 0 2 4.143 1.00 78.6 +4
All - British Championship 14 11 1 2 59 13 +46 0 5 4.214 0.929 82.1 +9

 

John Goodall - Match Record - Tournament Matches
British Championship Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 1887-88 2 2 0 0 10 1 +9 0 1 5.00 0.50 100.0 +2
BC 1888-89 2 1 0 1 6 4 +2 0 0 3.00 2.00 50.0 =0
BC 1890-91 2 2 0 0 6 2 +4 0 0 3.00 1.00 100.0 +2
BC 1891-92 1 1 0 0 4 1 +3 0 0 4.00 1.00 100.0 +1
BC 1892-93 1 1 0 0 6 0 +6 0 1 6.00 0.00 100.0 +1
BC 1893-94 1 0 1 0 2 2 =0 0 0 2.00 2.00 50.0 =0
BC 1894-95 2 2 0 0 12 0 +12 0 2 6.00 0.00 100.0 +2
BC 1895-96 2 1 0 1 10 3 +7 0 0 5.00 1.50 50.0 =0
BC 1897-98 1 1 0 0 3 0 +3 0 1 3.00 0.00 100.0 +1
BC All 14 11 1 2 59 13 +46 0 5 4.214 0.929 82.1 +9
All Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC All 14 11 1 2 59 13 +46 0 5 4.214 0.929 82.1 +9
All 14 11 1 2 59 13 +46 0 5 4.214 0.929 82.1 +9

 

John Goodall - Match History
 Club: Preston North End F.C. - 4 full caps

Coach: F.A. Committee (Charles Alcock) - 0 full capsx

Age 23
- 29 5 February 1887 - England 7 Ireland 0, Bramall Lane, Sheffield BC HW reserve
- 30 26 February 1887 - England 4 Wales 0, The Oval, Kennington HW reserve
 

Coach: F.A. International Select Committee - 14 full capsx

Age 24
1 32 4 February 1888 - Wales 1 England 5, Recreation Ground, Crewe BC AW Start ir
Some sources suggest Goodall scored on his debut, but this appears extremely dubious.
2 33 17 March 1888 - Scotland 0 England 5, Hampden Park, Glasgow BC AW Start 43 ir
Age 25
3 35 23 February 1889 - England 4 Wales 1, Victoria Ground, Stoke-upon-Trent BC HW Start ir
4 37 13 April 1889 - England 2 Scotland 3, The Oval, Kennington HL Start ? ir
Some sources suggest Goodall scored England's first goal.  If he did, he scored in 10 matches in a row. But it's only a faint possibility.
 Club: Derby County F.C. - 10 full caps  
Age 27
5 41 7 March 1891 - England 6 Ireland 1, Molineux, Wolverhampton BC HW Captain ir
6 43 4 April 1891 - England 2 Scotland 1, Ewood Park, Blackburn HW Start ir
Age 28
7 46 2 April 1892 - Scotland 1 England 4, Ibrox Park, Glasgow BC AW Start ir
Age 29
8 48 13 March 1893 - England 6 Wales 0, Victoria Ground, Stoke-on-Trent BC HW Start cf
- 49 1 April 1893 - England 5 Scotland 2, Athletic Ground, Richmond HW withdrawn
Age 30
9 52 7 April 1894 - Scotland 2 England 2, Celtic Park, Glasgow BC AD Captain cf
Age 31
10 53 9 March 1895 - England 9 Ireland 0, Derbyshire County Cricket Ground, Derby BC HW Start cf
11 55 6 April 1895 - England 3 Scotland 0, Goodison Park, Liverpool HW Start cf
Age 32
12 57 16 March 1896 - Wales 1 England 9, Cardiff Football Ground, Cardiff BC AW Start il
13 58 4 April 1896 - Scotland 2 England 1, Celtic Park, Glasgow AL Start ir
Age 34
14 63 28 March 1898 - Wales 0 England 3, The Racecourse, Wrexham BC AW Start ir
- 64 2 April 1898 - Scotland 1 England 3, Celtic Park, Glasgow AW reserve

Notes

ON Saturday, January 25, 1896 a most unusual game was staged at Derby County's Baseball Ground, a testimonial billed as "Derby County versus The Gentlemen of England".

At face value, the contest was unremarkable. Foul weather restricted the gate to a disappointing 5,000, as Derby County ran out winners by 4-3.  And this was no thriller in truth Derby's well-drilled professional players, fresh from a training break at a state of the art hydropathic establishment in Ashover, won at a mere canter.  But thereby hangs the tale. The Derby County players were the new breed of hard-bitten thoroughbred professionals, mostly working class men who played for money without a hint of shame.

Football to them was a job. In contrast, the "Gentlemen of England" were the old breed of unpaid amateurs, all highly-talented players in their own right, but mostly university-educated men of privileged background and professional standing who played for the love of the game rather than "filthy lucre".  That made the friendly fixture an unlikely one indeed, since voluntary fraternisation between the "pure" amateurs and "tainted" professionals was hardly to be encouraged.  The man in whose honour the yawning gap was bridged was Derby County's own "gentleman professional" John Goodall, whose fine character and reputation for fair play was held in such universal esteem that he earned the sobriquets "Honest John" and "Johnny Allgood".

So the John Goodall Testimonial was far more than just another friendly fixture, the Baseball Ground that day witnessed a symbolic moment in football history. It was the moment the posh old guard paid public homage to the common new breed, the day when professional football, hitherto reviled by much of educated society, truly came of age.

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CG