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Alf Dobson

Notts County FC & Corinthians FC

 4 appearances, 0 goals

P 4 W 3 D 0 L 1 F 25: A 2
75% successful
1882-84

Captain: none
minutes played: 360

Timeline
  Alfred Thomas Carrick Dobson
Birth Monday, 28 March 1859 at 23 Lenton Road, Basford, Nottinghamshire [registered in Nottingham, June 1859].
Birthdate confirmed by his baptism entry
Baptism 30 April 1859 at St. Barnabas' Church, Nottingham.
 

Alf Dobson cannot be found on the 1861-1871 census returns, Dobson's son, Alfred, born in 1891 and died in West Flanders in June 1915, so claims the Beeston website that ATC's father was a William Ebenezer. His mother was Sabina (née Pearson).
 

According to the 1871 census, Alfred's father, William E. is found at 23 Lenton Road with two servants. Where are all the other Dobson's?
  "ROBIN HOOD RIFLES. REGIMENTAL ORDERS,
"No.6.—Extract from the London Gazette:—'1st Nottinghamshire Rifle Volunteer Corps—Alfred Thomas Carrick Dobson, gentleman, to be Second Lieutenant (supernumerary), July 10th" - Wednesday, 17 July 1878/Thursday, 25 July 1878/Tuesday, 30 July 1878, all in Nottingham Evening Post
  "The following appointments appear in the London Gazette:—....1st Nottinghamshire Corps—The undermentioned second lieutenants to be lieutenants: Alfred Thomas Carrick Dobson" - Saturday, 28 August 1880, Nottingham Evening Post/Friday, 3 September 1880, Nottinghamshire Guardian
 

According to the 1881 census, The Dobson's (Father and six children) were living at 23 Lenton Road in Nottingham, with step-daughter Miss Augusta Stevens, and five servants.
Alf Dobson cannot be found on the 1891 census returns.
  "Lieutenant Alfred Thomas Carrick Dobson resigns his commission Ist Volunteer Battalion the Prince Albert's (Somersetshire Light Infantry)" - Wednesday, 25 July 1883, Naval & Military Gazette and Weekly Chronicle of the United Service
First marriage to Louise Lucille Merme [registered in Fylde, Lancashire, September 1891] (a Swiss national, died in 1900)
 

According to the 1901 census, Alfred T. is a widower, a lace manufacturer, and living with his step mother, also a widow, and his step-family, and his only son, Alfred F.O... One of the boarders at 23 Lenton Road is a Miss Augusta Stevens.
Second marriage to Augusta M. Stevens, his step-sister [registered in Kingston, Surrey, December 1902].
 

According to the 1911 census, Alfred, a lace manufacturer, is married to Augusta, with two servants, living at The Yews, High Road, in the Beeston area of Nottingham.
The 1914 and 1920 Nottingham Electoral Registers states that Dobson is still a lace manufacturer and still living at The Yews.
According to passengers list, in 1927, Alfred Thos. (aged 68) and his wife, Lily Betsy (50), are returning First Class from Madeira, arriving at Southampton on SS ***worth Castle on 4 April 1927. They live at The Yews.

Third marriage to Lily Betsy.... 18 years younger.
Death Saturday, 22 October 1932 at The Yews, High Road, Beeston, aged 73 years 208 days [registered in Basford, Nottinghamshire, December 1932].

Obituary

"BEESTON SPORTSMAN PASSES
"The death of Mr. Alfred T. Dobson, of 'The Yews,' Beeston, was announced on Saturday in his 73rd year. A wekk-known amateur footballer, he captained Notts County and played for England against Scotland. The funeral will take place at St. Barnabas' Cathedral, Nottingham, tomorrow." - Monday, 25 October 1932, Nottingham Journal.
Funeral "LATE MR. ALFRED DOBSON―FUNERAL AT THE GENERAL CEMETERY
"There was a fairly large gathering to-day at the funeral of Mr. Alfred T. Dobson, of The Yews, High Road, Beeston, which took place at the Nottingham General Cemetery. The deceased gentleman, who was 73, was a noted amateur Association footballer, and had been 'capped' four times. He also achieved distinction as a cyclist. For 20 years, and up to his death, Mr. Dobson was a director of Messrs. Wrights and Dobson Bros., Ltd., dyers, bleachers and dressers, of Nottingham.
"The first part of the service was held in the Roman Catholic [St. Barnabas'] Cathedral, Derby-road. The Rev. Father Hays, of Beeston, said the Requiem Mass, and was assisted by Father Ellis, Administrator at the Cathedral. The Bishop (Dr. J. McNulty) and Father Grice were present. The organist (Mr. F. Taylor) played a movement from Friedensfeirs's sonata, a dirge by Ambroise Thomas, and Chopin's Funeral March." - Tuesday, 26 October 1932, Nottingham Evening Post
  "ALFRED THOMAS CARRICK DOBSON. DECEASED
 "ALL PERSONS having CLAIMS
against the Estate of Alfred Thomas Carrick Dobson, late of 'The Yews,' Beeston, in the County of Nottingham, Retired Lace Manufacturer, Deceased, who died on the 22nd day of October, 1932, are requested to send particulars thereof to  EKING, MANNING & CO.,
                                                                                        7, Park Row, Nottingham.
Solicitors for the Executors."
- Saturday, 29 October 1932, Nottingham Journal
Probate "Alfred Thomas Carrick Dobson, late of The Yews, Beeston, Notts, lace manufacturer, Net personalty, £33,221: gross.... £36,979" - Monday, 9 January 1933, The Scotsman [2018 equivalent - £1.8m]

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990], Beeston-Notts.co.uk &

Playing Career
Club(s) Attended Downside School in Nottingham, before joining Notts County FC; also played for Corinthians FC.
Club honours None
Individual honours None
Distinctions None
Height/Weight not known

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990].

England Career
Player number One of seven who became the ninetieth players (91) to appear for England.
Position(s) Right-back
First match No. 14, 18 February 1882, Ireland 0 England 13, a friendly match at Knock Ground, Bloomfield, Belfast, aged 22 years 327 days;
Last match No. 22, 17 March 1884, Wales 0 England 4, a British Championship match at The Racecourse, Mold Road, Wrexham, aged 24 years 355 days;
Major tournaments British Championship 1883-84;
Team honours None
Individual honours None
Distinctions Brother of Charley Dobson;

Beyond England

Apparently not hindered by his weak eyesight.  Involved in the family's fabric business (W.E. & F. Dobson Ltd) in Nottingham. - An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who. Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.89.


The Numbers
Parties Appearances Comp.
Appearances		 Minutes Goals Goals Av.min Comp.
Goals		 Captain
4 4 3 360 0 none none none
Due to the fact that many matches rarely stuck to exactly ninety minutes long, allowing time for injuries, errors and substitutions.
P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts % W/L
4 3 0 1 25 2 +23 1 2 6.25 0.50 75.0 +2

Venue Record

Venue P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts % W/L
Away 4 3 0 1 25 2 +23 1 2 6.25 0.50 75.0 +2

Competition Record

Competition P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
British Championship 3 2 0 1 12 2 +10 1 1 4.00 0.667 66.7 +1
Friendly 1 1 0 0 13 0 +13 0 1 13.0 0.00 100.0 +1

Tournament Record

British Championship Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 1883-84 3 2 0 1 12 2 +10 1 1 4.00 0.667 66.7 +1
BC All 3 2 0 1 12 2 +10 1 1 4.00 0.667 66.7 +1

All Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 3 2 0 1 12 2 +10 1 1 4.00 0.667 66.7 +1
3 2 0 1 12 2 +10 1 1 4.00 0.667 66.7 +1

Match History

 Club: Notts County F.C. & Corinthians F.C. - four full appearances (360 min)

Coach: F.A. Committee (Charles Alcock) - four full app (360 min)x

Age 22
1 14 18 February 1882 - Ireland 0 England 13, Knock Ground, Belfast Fr AW Start rb
   

Age 24
2 20 23 February 1884 - Ireland 1 England 8, Ulster Cricket Ground, Belfast BC AW Start rb
3 21 15 March 1884 - Scotland 1 England 0, Cathkin Park, Glasgow BC AL Start rb
4 22 17 March 1884 - Wales 0 England 4, The Racecourse, Wrexham AW Start rb
   

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