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James Turner

Bolton Wanderers FC, Stoke FC, Derby County FC

3 appearances, 0 goals

P 3 W 3 D 0 L 0 F 18: A 2
100% successful

1893-98

captain: none
minutes played:
270

Timeline

  James Turner
name notes The middle name of Albert is just wrong, it was based on the Turner that died in 1904.
Birth Saturday 6 October 1866 in Brindley Ford (known locally as Blackbull), nr Goldenhill, Staffordshire [registered in Wolstanton, December 1866].

 

According to the 1871 census, James was born to Samuel and Hannah.

 

According to the 1881 census, James is the oldest of four children living with their widowed mother, who is a housekeeper for Martin McDermott at Heaths Row in Brindley Ford. James is a coal miner.

Marriage to Emma Powell, on Saturday, 30 March 1889 in Holy Trinity Church, Hanley [registered in Stoke-on-Trent, December 1889]. Emma was his neighbour. James lived at 26, Emma at 28.
 

According to the 1891 census, James is married to Emma, and living with them are his brother Thomas and another lodger, living at 68 Green Street in Radcliffe.

 

Cannot be found on the 1901 census.

Death Wednesday morning, 25 November 1903 at 52 Nelson Street, Fenton, aged 37 years 50 days [registered in Stoke-upon-Trent, December 1903] of Acute Phytisis Exaustion.
not 9 April 1904 in Prestwich. That is the death of James Albert Turner

Obituary

"DEATH OF TURNER, INTERNATIONAL HALF-BACK
"SUCCUMBS AT FENTON TO CONSUMPTION

"We regret to have to announce that Mr. James Turner, the old Stoke, Bolton Wanderers, Derby County, and international half-back, has this morning succumbed to the ravages of consumption. 'Jim Turner' was for a long time a popular idol of football crowds at Stoke, and other towns mentioned, and had won for himself respect also for his cricketing prowess. For the past few years has acted as captain of the Fenton Cricket Cub. Turner was only 37 years of age.
The deceased formerly resided at the Terrace Inn, Fenton, and only recently he removed to 52, Nelson-street. Turner had been connected with the Fenton Cricket Club for 12 years and during the last five years he was captain of the team. During his captaincy the team met with the greatest amount of success from a playing point of view in its history. In the five years the championship of North Staffordshire Cricket League was won three times and the second position was reached once. Turner was born at Black Bull and it was in that locality that he first took to playing football. He was transferred to Radcliffe, Lancashire, and he left that team to join Bolton Wanderers, with which team he was connected along with the present President of the Football League, Mr. J. J. Bentley. While with Bolton Wanderers he was selected to play in the International between England and Scotland, but unfortunately in the trial match he met with an accident and this prevented him from taking part in this particular match and also from assisting the Wanderers in the final for the English Cup. From Bolton Wanderers he came to Stoke and he was transferred from Stoke to Derby County. He was very successful with the County and gained his international cap England v. Ireland. He also played for Derby for the final of the English Cup
" - The Staffordshire Sentinel, Wednesday, 25 November 1903.


"DEATH OF JAMES TURNER—A NOTABLE HALF-BACK.
"James Turner, a well-known International half-back in the nineties, died at Fenton, Stoke-on-Trent, yesterday from consumption, at the early age of 37. Whilst playing with Bolton Wanderers, Turner was selected to play against Scotland, but was prevented through injury. He afterwards migrated to Stoke and Derby County, and whilst playing for the latter organisation represented England against Ireland. Locally he was well known as a cricketer, having captained the Fenton club for the least five years." - The Nottingham Daily Express, Thursday, 26 November 1903.
"DEATH OF JAMES TURNER
"James Turner, the old international half-back, died yesterday at Stoke-on-Trent, of consumption. Turner was in his day a very well known player, and was at one time one of the most effective half-backs taking part in first class football. He was a native of the Potteries, but he left the district of his birth and played for some years with Bolton Wanderers, for whom he did yeoman service. After a prolonged stay in Lancashire, he returned to the Potteries, having joined the ranks of the Stoke club, and up to the time of his retirement from active participation in the game, he remained a member of the Stoke team. He was always of a most steady disposition, and no player ever gave less trouble to a directorate than Turner. On his retirement he settled down as a publican, and in this sphere, as in the football world, his career was successful and unblemished." - The Sheffield Daily Telegraph, Thursday, 26 November 1903.

Funeral Three o'clock, Sunday, 29 November 1903 at Fenton Municipal Cemetery.
"The funeral of the late Jim Turner took place on Sunday afternoon amidst many signs of sympathy and respect, the place of internment being at the Cemetery, Fenton. Long before the time of the funeral procession was timed to start from the deceased's residence a large concourse of people had assembled. The procession, which was quite half a mile in length, was marshalled by Inspector Reynolds and Sergt. Dowler. Following came the hearse, the coffin in which was covered in wreaths. Next came the mourning coaches, three in number. The service in the chapel and at the graveside was very impressively performed by the Rev. E. H. Price, curate-in-charge at St. Paul's, Mount Pleasant." -
The Staffordshire Sentinel, Monday, 30 November 1903.

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990], Eric Harrison, Turner's great nephew-in-law &

Playing Career

Club(s) Began his playing career with Black Lane Rovers FC, before he joined Bolton Wanderers FC in early 1889 as an outside-left. He was signed by Leigh FC in August 1889, athough he was back playing for Wanderers in the September. He left to join Stoke FC. "He must have had some strong inducement to go to Stoke. as the Wanderers, in addition to giving him £3 per week, promised him a £100 benefit this season, but he was obstinate..." His transfer on 9 September 1894 only cost £50, instead of £150, as it was settled by tribunal, at the request of Turner. He reverted to being a wing-back. Derby County FC next signed Turner in June 1896 for a £70 transfer fee. Turner rejoined Stoke in August 1898 until he was released in August 1899.

League History
206 appearances, 11 goals
Bolton Wanderers FC 1889-94 96 appearances, eight goals
debut: 9 March 1889 Bolton Wanderers 7 Notts County FC 3.
Stoke FC 1894-96 fifty appearances, one goal
debut: 15 Sepetember 1894 Blackburn Rovers FC 6 Stoke FC 0.
Derby Couny FC 1896-98 51 appearances, one goal
debut: 1 September 1896 Wolverhampton Wanderers FC 1 Derby County FC 0.
Stoke FC 1898 seven appearances
debut: 1 October 1898 Preston North End FC 4 Stoke FC 2.
last: 17 December 1898 Stoke FC 1 Notts County FC 1.
Club honours Football League third place 1891-92 (23 apps, 2 gls), Division One third place 1896-97 (25, 1 gl);
FA Cup runners-up 1893-94 (4), 1897-98 (6);
Individual honours Football League (one appearance)
Distinctions None
Height/Weight not known

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990] & ENFA.

England Career

Player number One of four who became the 206th players (207) to appear for England.
Position(s) Left-half
First match No. 48, 13 March 1893, England 6 Wales 0, a British Championship match at Victoria Park, Boothen, Stoke-on-Trent, aged 26 years 158 days.
Last match No. 62, 5 March 1898, Ireland 2 England 3, a British Championship match at Cliftonville Gardens, Cliftonville, Belfast, aged 31 years 150 days.
Major tournaments British Championship 1892-93, 1894-95, 1897-98;
Team honours British Championship winners 1892-93, 1894-95, 1897-98;
Individual honours None
Distinctions None

Beyond England

Worked as a clerk for a commercial firm. His obituary staed that Turner was a publican when he retired from the game. - An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who. Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.252.

 

The Numbers
parties Appearances comp. apps minutes Goals goals ave.min comp. goals captain
5 3 3 270 0 0 min 0 none
minutes are an approximation, due to the fact that many matches rarely stick to exactly ninety minutes long, allowing time for injuries and errors.
P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts % W/L
3 3 0 0 18 2 +16 0 2 6.00 0.667 100.0 +3

Match Record

Venue & Competition P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts % W/L
Home British Championship 2 2 0 0 15 0 +15 0 2 7.50 0.00 100.0 +2
Away 1 1 0 0 3 2 +1 0 0 3.00 2.00 100.0 +1

Tournament Record

British Championship Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 1892-93 1 1 0 0 6 0 +6 0 1 6.00 0.00 100.0 +1
BC 1893-94 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 =0
BC 1894-95 1 1 0 0 9 0 +9 0 1 9.00 0.00 100.0 +1
BC 1896-97 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 =0
BC 1897-98 1 1 0 0 3 2 +1 0 0 3.00 2.00 100.0 +1
BC All 3 3 0 0 18 2 +16 0 2 6.00 0.667 100.0 +3

All Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 3 3 0 0 18 2 +16 0 2 6.00 0.667 100.0 +3
3 3 0 0 18 2 +16 0 2 6.00 0.667 100.0 +3

Match History

 Club: Bolton Wanderers F.C. - one full appearance (90 min)

F.A. International Select Committee - three full appearances (270 min)x

Age 26
1 48 13 March 1893 - England 6 Wales 0, Victoria Ground, Stoke-upon-Trent BC HW Start lh
  

 Club: Stoke F.C. - one full appearance (90 min)  

Age 27
52 7 April 1894 - Scotland 2 England 2, Celtic Park, Glasgow BC AD withdrawn

Age 28
2 53 9 March 1895 - England 9 Ireland 0, County Ground, Derby BC HW Start lh
  

 Club: Derby County F.C. - one full appearance (90 min)  

Age 30
61 3 April 1897 - England 1 Scotland 2, Sports Arena, Penge BC HL reserve

Age 31
3 62 5 March 1898 - Ireland 2 England 3, Cliftonville Gardens, Belfast BC AW Start lh
  

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