England Players Appearing
for Other National Sides in Official Matches
the early 1960s
FIFA has prohibited players from appearing for more than one
senior national side. But before then, four players made appearances in
official matches for both England and other national sides. Two of
them played against England and one of them scored against England.
(Jack) Reynolds, born in Blackburn on 21 February 1869, moved to Ireland as a boy.
Before it was discovered he was an Englishman, he made five appearances for Ireland,
four as a halfback and one as a winger, in 1890 and 1891 while playing for Distillery and Ulster, including
the 9-1 and
6-1 losses to England. Later, between 1892 and 1897, he made eight
appearances at halfback for England while with West Bromwich Albion and Aston
Villa, including the 2-2 draw with Ireland in 1894. Reynolds scored for
Ireland against England in the 8-1 loss in 1890, the only international in
which he played as a winger. He also scored for England in the 6-0
victory against Wales in 1893, the 5-2 win against Scotland in 1893 and the
2-2 draw with Scotland in 1894, but not in his only match against
Ireland. He is the only player to score both for and against England.
Hawley Edwards, born in Shrewsbury in 1850, made one appearance for England
while playing for Shropshire Wanderers,
against Scotland in Glasgow as an inside forward in 1874. He became the
first treasurer of the Football Association of Wales on its formation in 1876,
and later that year while with The Wanderers played for Wales, again at inside
forward, in their first international
against Scotland. That was his only Wales appearance.
(Bobby) Ernest Evans, born in Chester on 19 October 1885 of Welsh parents, became a
regular at outside left for Wales, making 10 appearances between 1906 and 1910
while with Wrexham, Aston Villa and Sheffield United. He played four
times against England, the 1-0 loss in 1906, the 1-1 draw in 1907, the 7-1
loss in 1908 and the 1-0 loss in 1910. After he scored his only
two goals for Wales against Ireland in his 10th international match, England's selectors
discovered his birthplace. He then made four
appearances for England, all at outside left and all as a Sheffield United player, in 1911 and 1912,
including 3-0 and 2-0 victories against Wales. He scored his only England goal on his debut against Ireland.
(Ken) Armstrong, born in Bradford on 3 June 1924, made one appearance for England,
at right halfback in the 7-2 drubbing of Scotland at Wembley on 2 April
1955. It was a banner year for Ken, as his club side, Chelsea, won their
only Football League championship. He emigrated to New Zealand
in May, 1957 after making a record 362 League appearances for Chelsea (broken
in 1969-70 by Peter Bonetti). He then made 13 appearances for New
Zealand's national side between 1958 and 1964 and became chief coach for the New Zealand Football
Association. Ken played until he was 47, but died on 13 June 1984, just
after his 60th birthday.
were at least four close calls.
Beaumont G. Jarrett, who played at centre-halfback for England three times,
3-0, 3-1 and 7-2 losses to Scotland in 1876, 1877 and 1878, had been selected
by Wales for their inaugural match, against Scotland in 1876, but did not
play. Robert Topham, who played for England as a winger and inside
forward in the 6-1 victory against Ireland in 1893 and the 5-1 win against
Wales in 1894, had been picked to play for Wales against Scotland in 1885, but
did not accept.
according to a note appearing in the
of Football Statisticians website's Today in History feature: "On
his way [on 21 January 1914] to an England international trial game at
Sunderland Alex Donaldson of Bolton Wanderers revealed that he was
actually born in Scotland. [Charles W.] Wallace of Aston Villa had to take his place in the
trial and Donaldson ended up in the Scottish side which faced England on April
4th of the same year!" Donaldson made
six Scotland appearances from 1914 to 1922, including the 3-1 win against
England in 1914 and the 5-4 loss to England in 1920. George Farmer, the
Everton outside-left, played twice for Wales in 1885. He was born in
Oswestry and eligible to play for England, and he almost did, being
named as a reserve for England twice in 1887.
Players Appearing for Other National Sides in Unofficial Matches
least nine England players have appeared for other national selections in unofficial matches, and there could be more.
Those we know of all played against England.
England players appeared for Scotland in one or more of the five unofficial
England in 1870
and 1871, which were played at The Oval in
Kennington, London before the
first official international match, the
scoreless draw of
November 30, 1872 at Hamilton
Crescent in Glasgow. Since no football association had yet been formed
in Scotland, the Scotland teams were drawn from London-based Scots plus a few
"all-comers" needed to make a full eleven.
born in India and capped for
England in the 3-1 loss to Scotland in 1877, played for
Scotland in all five of these unofficial internationals: the
1-1 draw on 5
March 1870, the
1-0 England victory on 19 November 1870, the
1-1 draw on 25
February 1871, the
2-1 England win on 18 November 1871 and the
victory on 24 February 1872.
Alexander Morten, thought to have been born
in Middlesex and goalkeeper for
England in their 4-2 victory against Scotland in the second official
international in 1873, appeared for
Scotland in the first of these unofficial
Arnold Kirke Smith, also referred to as Arnold K. Smith, born
in Ecclesfield, near Sheffield, and capped for
England in the first official
international, the scoreless draw with Scotland in 1872, also played for
in the third
and fourth of these unofficial matches.
Frederick Patey Chappell, who apparently was born in England and who changed his name to
Brunning Maddison in 1873 after he appeared for England in the
official international in 1872, also played for
Scotland in the third of these
(Stan) Harding Mortensen, born in South Shields, scored 23 goals in 25
appearances for England at inside forward and centre-forward between 1947 and
1953 while playing for Blackpool. He also made three England appearances in
matches, scoring three goals. But his international debut came as a
substitute for Wales in the wartime international against England at Wembley
on 25 September 1943. Injury forced Wales left halfback Ivor Powell to
leave the match, and,
with England leading 4-1, the teams agreed that England reserve Mortensen
would be allowed to replace him. Mortensen went to inside left and Ron
Burgess moved to left halfback. Fortunately, Morty didn't score that day,
and England won, 8-3.
(Bobby) Frederick Chelsea Moore, who was born in Barking, Essex, who earned 108 England caps between 1962 and 1973, all as a West Ham
United player, and who captained England 70 times, appeared for Team America
against Italy, Brazil and England in the
U.S.A. Bicentennial Cup Tournament in 1976. The U.S.A. entry was called
Team America because the official U.S.A. national side was not then strong enough to meet
top-flight opposition and some of the North American Soccer League (NASL) stars
on the tournament team had played for other national sides. The Football
Association deemed England's match against Team America unofficial from the
beginning, but the Brazilian and Italian associations included their games
against this all-star selection in their list of full internationals.
Team America matches
would not meet the new standard FIFA set down in January, 2001 for
official full internationals because they were not played between the
selections of two FIFA country members. FIFA has retroactively desanctified
matches involving other multinational all-star selections, including
England's matches against the Rest of Europe and the Rest of the World,
the F.A. continues to
recognise these as official internationals.
playing for the San Antonio Thunder in the NASL, captained Team America
against England. There is
a photograph elsewhere on this website of Moore and England captain Gerry Francis
leading out the teams for their tournament match, which England won, 3-1.
As far as we know, Moore is the only player to appear as captain both for and
(Tommy) Smith, who was born in Liverpool and who earned a single cap for
England as a midfielder in the scoreless draw with Wales in 1971 while playing
for Liverpool, also appeared in midfield for Team America in the U.S.A.
Bicentennial Cup Tournament matches against Brazil and England while playing for the
Tampa Bay Rowdies. A player identified only as Smith also appeared for
Team America against Italy, but we believe that was U.S.A.-born defender
Robert (Bob) Smith of the New York Cosmos.
William Marsh, who was born in Hatfield, Hertfordshire, who earned nine caps
between 1971 and 1973 while with Queen's Park Rangers and Manchester City and
who went on to star for the Tampa Bay Rowdies in the NASL, had been set to
become the third England international to play for Team America in the 1976
tournament. But when Team America coach Ken Furphy refused a last-minute
demand from Marsh and Northern Ireland's George Best, then of the Los Angeles
Aztecs, that they start all three of Team America's tournament matches, these
two prima donnas walked off the team.
pair of former England defenders, Michael Duxbury, who was born in Accrington
and who earned 10 caps as a Manchester
United player in 1983 and 1984, and David Watson, who was born in Liverpool
and who won 12 caps while with
Norwich City and Everton between 1984 and 1988, lined up for the Hong Kong
Golden Select XI in the 1-0 loss to England on 26 May 1996. Although
Duxbury was 36 and Watson 34, they effectively stifled England's attack,
plunging the England team's prospects into doubt as they flew home for the
start of the European Championship tournament.
England Player Appearing for
Another National Side at the Amateur/Semi-Professional Level
At least one England player also appeared for the amateur side of another
country. Gordon Hodgson, who was born in Johannesburg, South Africa and
who earned three caps at inside right against Northern Ireland, Wales and
Scotland in 1930 and 1931 while playing for Liverpool, had already played for
South Africa's amateur national team. In fact, he came to England with a
South African touring party in 1924-25.
Two players who have been picked for England at semi-professional level
(England C) who then went on to play full international for another country.
Eamonn O'Keefe went on to play for the Republic of Ireland after playing for
the England semi-pro side. Rumour has it that he had to get special
dispensation from either UEFA or FIFA (probably FIFA) who were trying to stop
that sort of thing and was allowed to play for Ireland because the semi-pro
side wasn't full international (in those days they only picked players from
English clubs as well). Efan Ekoku also got picked for the semi pro
side. Possibly for only one game and he was an unused sub in a game at
Gloucester City against Wales.
- Phil Davison.
Schoolboys/Lower Level Players Appearing for Other National Sides
Eligibility for the England Schoolboys team depends entirely on place of
residence and players who have appeared for a national schoolboys side in the
U.K. remain free to play for another senior national side. We know of
who appeared for England Schoolboys and who went on to play for senior
national sides other than England. Robert (Bob) Primrose Wilson, the
Arsenal goalkeeper, appeared twice in 1971 for Scotland's senior team,
for which he was eligible through family ancestry although he was
born in Chesterfield, England and thus could have played for England had he ever been
selected. He did not play against England. And Ryan Joseph Giggs
(then known as Wilson),
born in Cardiff, Wales of Welsh ancestry and thus not eligible to play for
England's senior side, has appeared for the Wales senior side on many
occasions as a Manchester United star, including the 2-0 World Cup 2006
qualifying loss to England in October, 2004.
Tommy Mason also managed this feat, playing for England
at schoolboy level before qualifying for New Zealand by residence. Oddly
enough, he didn't get picked for New Zealand at full international level until
he had returned to England and was playing for Farnborough Town - Phil
Boaz Myhill, Wales second choice goalkeeper, has also
appeared for the England under-eighteen and under-twenty side. - Phil
in an Unofficial Match Appearing for Another National Side
we turn to the case of the Scot who played for England against Scotland. At least one player who appeared for England in an unofficial match also
appeared for another national side in official matches. Thomas (Tommy)
Usher Pearson, who was born in Edinburgh and who played at outside left for
England in the 2-1 victory against Scotland in the 1939 unofficial wartime
international, also played at outside left for Scotland in two official 1947 matches,
including the 1-1 draw against England. Eric Brook and Sam Barkas, both
of Manchester City, were the original selections at outside left and right
back for England in the 1939 wartime international, which was played at St.
James' Park in Newcastle, but they were injured in a car accident on the way
to the match and were replaced by a pair of Newcastle United players, Pearson and
Joseph (Joe) Richardson.
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